::grins:: Cool. I get more fun tonight.
Tara Dobbs wrote:
> You want to know why I left is because of you and others like you that
> don't seem to care to live in real life.
No, you see, we have different considerations of "real life". It's foolish to segment your life into different parts- _that's_ what's unhealthy. As for living in my kinness- I don't really. Being virus-kin is a very minor part of my life- being an occultist on the other hand, that reaches into everything I do. You can't be an occultist on weekends and special rituals. You either do it, or you don't.
>Yes you can have your
> otherkinness, but ya'll seem to live it way too deeply and from that I
> found that this whole place was nothing but a clic, a popularity
Really? I'd like to see some evidence of that. I know I didn't join to be popular. I joined because I expected it to be full of people like you, and expected to be banned in a week. I was pleasantly shocked to find it full of intelligent, openminded people, who could have a well reasoned debate.
>I don't give respect to those who enjoy in flame wars, aruging
> and laughing at someone else's anger and getting off on it.
No dear, I wasn't laughing at your anger- I was laughing at your willful ignorance, and your tenacity to cling to an idea in the face of well reasoned and well supported arguments to the contrary. Repeating something over and over again does not always make it true. I was laughing at your foolish way of dealing with people. In short, I was, and am, laughing at your failings and shortcomings. There's a hope in there, that you'll realize this, and see what I'm laughing at- see why it is you're my joke. It is my further hope, that upon seeing this, you'll take measures to correct this, or take measures to show me how I'm wrong- so that I can correct myself.
> I've had to
> many times in my life gone through that and found that they are sad
> people that don't have a life. I don't piss off people and get off on
> it, I most of the time feel bad that I may have pissed someone off and
> come back a few days later to say my sorries and apoligies, but this I
> can not say sorry to.
I like to think I have a life. I'm happily married, and while woefully unemployed, I've been working rather dillegently on fixing that, and making do with what income I can find in the interm. Being unemployed is harder work than holding a job, let me tell you. One of my simple pleasures in life is finding people who are foolish and stupid, so that I can treat them as I wish I was treated when I'm being foolish and stupid- with a heavy hand and no compassion. This is not my only pleasure, but one of my primary ones. Yes, I enjoy verbally beating the ever-loving shit out of people when I feel they earned it. And I still feel that you earned it. You were rude, belligerent, and willfully ignorant. Let me explain willful ignorance, as opposed to normal ignorance.
Someone who is just plain ignorant merely doesn't no something. That's perfectly understandable- no one knows everything. An ignorant person, however, when confronted with new information, will make an effort to incorporate and/or understand that information, and make an intelligent, informed decision based on it.
You however, perpetrated the sin of "Willful Ignorance"- not only did you not know something, when several people tried to explain it to you, you refused to listen, let alone think about, or discuss this new information. There is no excuse _whatsoever_ for willful ignorance.
> Because of you, your atitude of getting off on my 'ingnorince' and
> 'stupidity' shows you are shallow.
Fine. That doesn't bother me. I feel no shame in laughing at foolish people. It's either that or be depressed that anything that can master the feat of upright locomotion can make themselves look so bad, and show their thoughts as _that_ flimsy and poorly concieved. If calling me shallow makes you sleep better at night, I can live with that.
>I wish I had ignored your post about
> your experiment in the first place, but I knew this was going to happen
> the first day I read one of your posts before I ever joined.
Well then, you should have been better prepared, shouldn't you have? You obviously knew what you were getting into. If you read deeply into any of the comments, you would have seen that I have no patience for people who will make a claim, but provide no backing- I'm not talking proof- I'm talking support for thier claim, to prove they're not full of shit.
> You need to stop getting off on anger like this, it will ruin you and
> your future indevers.
I'm not angry. I'm happier than a pig in mud. I get off on conflict- I love it. I come from a long tradition of Tricksters, and bringers of Chaos and Conflict. My chosen Goddess is Eris- the Greek Goddess of Chaos, Discord and Strife. Why do I align myself so? Because it brings change! And CHANGE is the only way to achieve growth! If things don't change, then nothing grows, and eventually everything stagnates and rots.
> BTW, forgive my horrible spelling. Due to bad educational schools I went
> to in my younger days I still can't spell some words properly. :/
Okay, this is a perfect example of some of your behavior irks me- you're making an excuse. I don't care about the bad education you recieved. The schools I went to weren't any prize either- but that didn't stop me. I wanted to be able to speak, write, and think clearly, so I taught myself to do so. Don't blame other people for your shortcomings. Either fix them, or be content with them- those are your options.
I'll be more than happy to continue this, if you're willing to discuss things in a reasoned manner. If you check otherkin, you'll see that I apologized for your departure- not because I'm sorry for anything I said to you- I stand by every word. I'm sorry that you couldn't take conflict, or disagreement.
And the second communique:
Now I know why you and I were at each other like mad rabid dogs. It's
because you believe and work Chaos, Discord, and Striff. I have a friend who
does this, but he's so much younger than you and I it's funny. I think you
do Chaos, Discord, and Striff better than he ever could. ^___^
I'll just leave it at that.
No, that's really not why I went after you with so much vigor at all,
and saying that misses the point of _everything_ I've said to you, and
The reason I went after you is that you showed absolutely _no interest
whatsoever_ in accepting new points of view, discussing, and debating in
a rational manner. You immediately started repeating your mantra of
"fact", and discarding anything anyone said to you about it.
The reason I ripped you apart at every chance was because you excersised
willful ignorance- which is shameful.
Yes, I'm into Chaos, Discord and Strife- because those things bring
about change in systems that are stagnating. I'm not interested in them
as much as I'm interested in the effects- Creation, Growth and Life. You
can't have these things with Chaos, Discord and Strife. You also can't
have them without Order, Compassion, and a degree of Placidity- and I
don't deny the importance of those- but I stand on one side of the
balance to help pull things towards the center.
Do not try and dismiss what I've been saying to you for those reasons-
because that's missing the point.
The failings in you that offended me were:
1) Willful Ignorance
2) Discourtesy, rudeness
3) The audacity to make claims, but have no basis for that claim, other
than the fact that you said so- and then the foolishness to get huffy
when people called you on that
4) Making excuses for your shortcomings
And finally, your habit of saying things like "I'll leave it at that,"
after completely evading the whole point of everything that's been said
to you this far.
I'm continuing to do this in the vague hope that you're going to learn
something from this. I'll keep trying.